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Ndzana Seme

MRS KINANG'S OPINIONS SHOULD BE TAKEN MORE SERIOUSLY
By Ndzana Seme

I would invite all to try to understand the strong points Mrs. Kinang makes in her paper, instead of just trying to be deaf in front of a reality the other side may use against the Anglophone separatists and certainly prevail. Never forget that the world is not dupe. Even the world superpower, the U.S., had tried to dupe everybody with lies to going to war in Iraq. That didn’t work.

Hoping that using the English heritage as the basis for separatism would ally the British may be a miscalculation, but also a shame in an African view, because the judges in the case of Anglophone separatism will not only be the British.

Therefore, you should try to listen when Mrs. Kinang says:

“Then, you have some Anglophone scribes talking about motherland, their English values, and alien 11 Provincers when they have not changed the latrines in their ancestral home with in-house plumbing. The claim to an English motherland heritage is academic nonsense”

In fact, that is why many, including me, don’t take the Anglophone separatist movement seriously.

In a world of “Clash of Civilizations”, it is shameful for Africans to base their claims of independence on a Western culture.

Many things are mixed up, either in Mrs. Kinang’s point or in the other reactions. I am going to pick some examples to show how far we, Western-like intellectuals, are all wrong.

The Western view of democracy, notably its republicanism, seems well accepted by everyone. This is the first and main failure at this very time when African civilization – to be compared to the Confucian civilization at economic war or the Islamic civilization at religious war with the West – should be taking its place for a hopeful honorable place of our people in the humanity.

The Western republicanism we proud ourselves today to be good students at is a sum of historical consensuses proper to Western civilization. The cohabitation of the king (modern president or prime minister), the aristocracy (the wealthy and powerful in the business and political sectors) and the people, is proper to the West.

The African society has no history of such social classes. In the United States’ political discourse, it is all about helping the poor reach the middle class (bourgeoisie in French). Did Africa ever have classes such as the people (also called the rabble), the middle class, and the aristocracy?

To better understand where I am heading to with this example of republicanism, we should ask ourselves why political parties in Africa (except state-parties such as CNU or CPDM in Cameroon) often end up becoming tribal parties.

The response is Western ideologies (ranging from capitalism to communism) don’t work in Africa, because those ideologies are based on social classes that don’t exist in Africa.

Historical social conflicts in Africa are of a different nature: ethnic conflicts.

To make it short, Africans should head towards adopting political institutions that are the best in solving their social conflicts. Political parties were set by the West to solve their conflicts their way. African societies don’t know political parties. They have other forms of organizations that should be institutionalized.

Democracy is of African origins. There is democracy in all aspects of African life, notably under the famous palaver tree. Africans know better than anyone else that you don’t need political party conflicts to have a democracy.

We need to go to the school of African civilization to lift our people to dignity by developing them the way they feel development.

Only if the ten provinces reflect Cameroon’s ethnic diversity should we accept those types of colonial solutions as the way to get our people developed. If not, and I think so, the real development passes through, not a recognition of any English heritage (still to be proven), but through a decentralization of the State powers over to our villages, including legal powers, legislative powers, security powers, economic powers, environmental powers, etc.

That’s the only way a separatist movement in Africa should build a respectful foundation, in my opinion.

Ndzana Seme
Born in the Francophone Cameroon and feels Limbe and Bamenda are his towns

Justice M. Mbuh

Ndzana Seme,
The issue at stake, however MsJoe wants to weave democracy (and now you with development) into it is not and will never be both premises--democracy and development. On the contrary, both are simply tools used to make life better and in the case of Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons), no-democracy and no-development are simply used to show that Cameroun has been one hell of a fire, a lot worse off for our nationals that the fear of fry-pan Nigeria!

In as much as you wold want us to take MsJoe's lambasting rhetoric seriously, in as much as her coordination of facts, just like yours above completely miss the points at stake,the inconsistency exemplified by defending a colonial-borne nation like Cameroun, let alone her pre-independence status as an equal state to erstwhile Southern Cameroons (Ambazonia Republic) as one of many UN Trust Territories, speaks volumes of double-standards by which association of our country with Cameroun has produced all along and ever since the impasse at Foumban in July 1961.

Lets deal with the most important things first and trivial, fluidial ones later.

In examining our relationship with Cameroun Republic, it is important that in order not to think we are separatists per se, or secessionists as some would wrongly charge, we must begin by examining what our people voted for in 1961 and ask our selves if they got it at all. Secondly, we would want you and the likes of MsJoe to also examine whether or not the United Nations had the right (given the terms of the Trusteeship Agreement and the fact that the UN itself passed laws--such as The General Assembly Resolution Granting Independence and or Self-government to all Colonial and Other Peoples of December 1960, that completely nullified the plebiscite) to organize the said plebiscite in the first place.

No need to get into serious details here: but on both counts, the United Nations and Cameroun republic are found guilty as charge: Material Breach of an International Treaty!

On the part of the UN, by being inconsistent and in fact abandonning a supposed Trust Territory (Category B Territory), the UN by her actions set us up for the current situation between Ambazonia and Cameroun Republic. It will be a miracle should we eventually attain indepoendence without actually slaughtering one another. For independence, it is non-negotiable, however some of you may perceive things.

On the part of Cameroun, no need pointing out their inconsistencies and hypocritical verbalization in the foolish ambition of illegally annexing our country to their, their name-changing syndrom a real pointer to treachery! No need numerating here the many occassions during which statements made by Cameroun public officials contradicted one another, lest we spit on them while they are alive or dead.

The UN failed to respond when Cameroun Officials began making claims, (even after UN Resolution 1608 of April 21, was passed, making it clear that we were not Camerounians, even after union with Cameroun)that "the Southern Cameroons will become an integral part of the Cameroun Republic" (UN Year Book, 1961). And UN followed up by completely absenting from the Constitutional Talks held at Foumban that same year! In addition, Cameroun President Ahmadou Ahidjo lied to our people in Buea that Cameroun did not have plans to assimilate Southern Cameroonians. So just why should we not restore our sovereignty given the tracks of lies and annexation tendencies that have characterized the last four decades?

International Law holds such manipulations as material breach of treaty. The prescriptions include termination of such treaties, regarding them as null and void ab initio. This means that after 1961 when Cameroun began violating the agreements that when put together constitute the Treaty of Union between Cameroun and erstwhile Southern Cameroons, everything done by Cameroun in promotiong Camerounization, it their public officials don't want us to see such actions as assimilation, have been null and void. That makes Cameroun Republic the guilty party and we hope in due course that they will pay back their loot!

So I say to you and MsJoe, it is not about the evolution of Cameroun Republic, once they are found to be in guilt of breach of international treaty, as wellas in contempt of court--for failing to contest cases against them in Cameroun High Court and the UNHRC in Geneva--actions which make that enclave a lawless state, worth bombing like we did Baghdad!

Do we need to change from pit toilets to inhouse plumbed water systems to make you and Msjoe understand that this is not just simply a matter or protest for development and democracy? Incidentally, I am one of those who love western values as opposed to the highly sterile and you bet redundancy and totally unproductive claims of Africanness and civilization, when Egypt cannot boast of producing a bicycle! Yes, I also supported the war against Saddam and Sons Interprise called Iraq for the same reasons I am opposed to Camerounization in the name of Biya and the Essingan Fame Enterprise! Like the war against Iraq, which unfortunately the Bush Administration chosed to argue for it the way they did, we are in support of total independence for Ambazonia for the simple reason that according to the law and actual proven practices by The United Nations, material breach of international treaty ought and must be punished!

Thus, in conclusion, Cameroun authorities can pull out of Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons) peacefully or the sons and daughters of the teritory will flush them out by all means necessary! Why? The highest abuse of human rights is when one's sovereignty is threatened by another. Defending that sovereignty is also an inalienable human right! When Ambazonia is free of Cameroun, you challenge us about developmental and democratic theorizations. Even then we shall be ready to prove Cameroun wrong again: we were the ones who had democracy and are the ones forcing it on Cameroun, not the other way round.
Sorry, personally, I am not flattered by your claims of feeling Limbe ( I suppose you meant VICTORIA) and Bamenda are your towns: Biya made the same foolish claim and has lived twenty something years trying to totally destroy us! FEELING SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT FROM ACTUALLY LIVING IT!

Justice M. Mbuh
Secretary General
Ambazonia (Southern Cameroons) People's Emancipation Council (APEC)
P.O. Box 150,
Washington, DC, 20044
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MRS KINANG'S OPINIONS SHOULD BE TAKEN MORE SERIOUSLY
By Ndzana Seme

I would invite all to try to understand the strong points Mrs. Kinang makes in her paper, instead of just trying to be deaf in front of a reality the other side may use against the Anglophone separatists and certainly prevail. Never forget that the world is not dupe. Even the world superpower, the U.S., had tried to dupe everybody with lies to going to war in Iraq. That didn’t work.

Hoping that using the English heritage as the basis for separatism would ally the British may be a miscalculation, but also a shame in an African view, because the judges in the case of Anglophone separatism will not only be the British.

Therefore, you should try to listen when Mrs. Kinang says:

“Then, you have some Anglophone scribes talking about motherland, their English values, and alien 11 Provincers when they have not changed the latrines in their ancestral home with in-house plumbing. The claim to an English motherland heritage is academic nonsense”

In fact, that is why many, including me, don’t take the Anglophone separatist movement seriously.

In a world of “Clash of Civilizations”, it is shameful for Africans to base their claims of independence on a Western culture.

Many things are mixed up, either in Mrs. Kinang’s point or in the other reactions. I am going to pick some examples to show how far we, Western-like intellectuals, are all wrong.

The Western view of democracy, notably its republicanism, seems well accepted by everyone. This is the first and main failure at this very time when African civilization – to be compared to the Confucian civilization at economic war or the Islamic civilization at religious war with the West – should be taking its place for a hopeful honorable place of our people in the humanity.

The Western republicanism we proud ourselves today to be good students at is a sum of historical consensuses proper to Western civilization. The cohabitation of the king (modern president or prime minister), the aristocracy (the wealthy and powerful in the business and political sectors) and the people, is proper to the West.

The African society has no history of such social classes. In the United States’ political discourse, it is all about helping the poor reach the middle class (bourgeoisie in French). Did Africa ever have classes such as the people (also called the rabble), the middle class, and the aristocracy?

To better understand where I am heading to with this example of republicanism, we should ask ourselves why political parties in Africa (except state-parties such as CNU or CPDM in Cameroon) often end up becoming tribal parties.

The response is Western ideologies (ranging from capitalism to communism) don’t work in Africa, because those ideologies are based on social classes that don’t exist in Africa.

Historical social conflicts in Africa are of a different nature: ethnic conflicts.

To make it short, Africans should head towards adopting political institutions that are the best in solving their social conflicts. Political parties were set by the West to solve their conflicts their way. African societies don’t know political parties. They have other forms of organizations that should be institutionalized.

Democracy is of African origins. There is democracy in all aspects of African life, notably under the famous palaver tree. Africans know better than anyone else that you don’t need political party conflicts to have a democracy.

We need to go to the school of African civilization to lift our people to dignity by developing them the way they feel development.

Only if the ten provinces reflect Cameroon’s ethnic diversity should we accept those types of colonial solutions as the way to get our people developed. If not, and I think so, the real development passes through, not a recognition of any English heritage (still to be proven), but through a decentralization of the State powers over to our villages, including legal powers, legislative powers, security powers, economic powers, environmental powers, etc.

That’s the only way a separatist movement in Africa should build a respectful foundation, in my opinion.

Ndzana Seme
Born in the Francophone Cameroon and feels Limbe and Bamenda are his towns


Posted by: Ndzana Seme | August 6, 2004 10:52 PM

Ekange Blasius

There is no reason on this earth the likes of EVELYN JOE KINANG should be taken seriously. She takes herself seriously enough and that's fine by us.

The primitive, jealous Cameroon Republic under the criminal tutelage of another authoritarian presidential monarchy - De Gaulle et al, is guilty of aggression and annexation. It starts and ends there. The mish mash that some put out here; now in the name of history, there in the name of Pan-africanism, now in the name of development and democracy and 10-state federations, there even in the name of psychology (bilingual children being more blah blah blah...) wreaks of the desperation of thieves being caught in the act. You all can delude yourselves with narcissistic claims of separatists, and seccetionists until the cows come home, but history and truth remains on obstinate fellow.

Cultural bastards will not stand in our way. Ms. Joe once advised us to go to the bush if we were serious. We've taken that advice, in this year of 2004 A.D.

Ndzana Seme

"this is not just simply a matter or protest for development and democracy? Incidentally, I am one of those who love western values as opposed to the highly sterile and you bet redundancy and totally unproductive claims of Africanness and civilization, when Egypt cannot boast of producing a bicycle! Yes, I also supported the war against Saddam and Sons Interprise called Iraq for the same reasons I am opposed to Camerounization in the name of Biya and the Essingan Fame Enterprise! Like the war against Iraq, which unfortunately the Bush Administration chosed to argue for it the way they did, we are in support of total independence for Ambazonia"

Wish you good luck.

NDIKS

AMBAZONIA WILL ALWAYS CHECK-MATE

MR Nzana Seme and co, you say development and decentralisation to the villages should be what?SOLUTION?is that the problem.WHY was federal union disbanded?and by the way which kind of development are you even talking about is it human,moral or infrastructural development?because the inertia LRC IS MORE OBSSESS with infrastructure which is still at a low level.you don't just read a virulent polemic from a hellcat and just rush with a baseless opinion.AMBAZONIA is A distinct Nation from CAMEROUN AND has nothing in common.the CORPUS DELICTI is there for you to read and understand and then just stand by the truth.don't believe that ill slogan cameroun is one and indivisible.that is the slogan of a thieve.remember with HCB/28/29 OF BAMENDA HIGH COURT,AMBAZONIA will catch as-catch can to push the BANANA REPUBLIC OF CAMEROUN from her HOMELAND.the problem is not cultural or ethnic it is INTERNATIONAL.Cameroun got independence on 1st of JANUARY 1960 WITHOUT Ambazonia,and had sign the OAU DECLARATION which states that COUNTRIES MUST RESPECT BORDERS existing upon the time of their independence.cameroun had signed.and wanting to be supra natinal power today at the behest of their metropolitan friends.

CAMEROUN'S presence in AMBAZONIA is just TEMPORARY.colonization cannot be permanent.the GERMANS,BRITISH came and left with little or no querry.cameroun has refuse to go after HCB/28/29.Ambazonia will catch as-catch can to TERMINATE the ANNEXATION willy-nilly
camerouns presence in AMBAZONIA can be termed sa a short term economic plan for both the republic and the elite coterie.you are free to make you opinion but i will adjure you to take an insight in this situation before certain remarks.and the plebiscite was bought with french franc to favour Foncha.you see the consequences of buying votes.a patriot at heart cannot do that.in cameroun opposstion want voter computerisation in an election that has yet to be announce that it will or may not take place in october.two months from now.the ruling elite coterie have not been campaigning when is that?THE inertia chief of d'etat will get up one morning and announce elections are today,and creat a STAMPEDE to the polling stations.AMBAZONIA has nothing to do with cameroun,and are therefore not camerounians.
DOWN WITH PAN-CAMEROUNISM.
NDIKS.

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